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Topic: Swine Flu - outbreak
Posted By: Pirate Alyx
Subject: Swine Flu - outbreak
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2009 at 8:48pm
Now I know what the freak I had for the last 2 weeks.  I just heard about the outbreak today.  Wish I had know this 2 weeks ago when the symptoms broke out April 8.  I could not figure out what it was or where I got it, but I think I narrowed it down where I got it...public bathroom.  So watch out folks...there is something nasty and it's coming from Mexico and going into California.....
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/04/24/swine.flu/index.html - http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/04/24/swine.flu/index.html
 


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Posted By: Ad nauseous
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2009 at 11:22pm
*@#$!

another thing to worry about.




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Posted By: PaWolf
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2009 at 11:30pm
'Tis rolling into Texas, all the way to Dallas, also.
We've three (3) pups 'in the path', along with other relatives and MANY friends; I've been placing calls throughout the day...this is certainly something to learn about. Being that it is a 'swine' flu, it can be VERY serious - this kind actually scares me much more than any 'bird' flu - and I AM scared for our own and others.


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Posted By: Hootman
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 12:15am
They shouldn't let those pigs in the restroom...



Posted By: PaWolf
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 12:34am
...wish I could take THIS ONE that lightly - I cannot.

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Posted By: Pirate Alyx
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 1:09am
Originally posted by Hootman Hootman wrote:

They shouldn't let those pigs in the restroom...

 
 
OH Hootman...you had me laughing at this....that's what I have felt like with all the diareahea you get with this flu...still getting the big D and cough 2 weeks later.
 
Yes Pa, having gone through it, it was not fun...so yes tell everyone to be careful!


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Posted By: Hootman
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 2:01am
Sorry, Pa....


Posted By: PaWolf
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 3:20pm
Something inside me says;
 
1.) PAY CLOSE ATTENTION
 
2.) LEARN ALL YOU CAN
 
  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30398682/ - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30398682/
 


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Posted By: PaWolf
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 4:39pm
I'll toss this out for those that haven't added it to their 'Favorites-Reference/Health/<wherever> folder'.
I really hope you occasionally view the site...for your own good, if nothing else.
http://www.cdc.gov/ -  
http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/ - http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/
 
http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/investigation.htm - http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/investigation.htm
 


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Posted By: regulus
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 7:24pm
Hmmm, Mexico City - Population, approximately 25,000,000. 1000 Reported cases, 68 Fatalities.
 
 
Sounds like you have a better chance getting Struck by Lightning!


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Posted By: PaWolf
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 10:05pm
Originally posted by regulus regulus wrote:

Hmmm, Mexico City - Population, approximately 25,000,000. 1000 Reported cases, 68 Fatalities.
 
 
Sounds like you have a better chance getting Struck by Lightning!
ShockedTHAT is simply the very complacent and ignorant thinking that does nobody any good. 
Good Luck.
Maybe you will not feel any affect. 


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Posted By: deafdog
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2009 at 12:28am
Now that stuff is in New York City. 

New York City?  Get plenty of ropes.

Lessee, how did it get from Mejico, to CA, AZ,- and then in a couple days - wham!  The east coast.

Now I figure that stuff's been a incubatin' a few days, so it got in American last week sometime. 

How many will be dead by the end of the month.  I'll say - 1K.

Quarantine everybody coming from the flicted areas.


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Posted By: PaWolf
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2009 at 6:34pm
Being our 'International Lifestyle', we've got TAMIFLU stockpiled at home. It is good for five (5) years, but only effective once symptomatic - and no telling if it will be effective with this new strain. If you can find a channel to acquire the likes of TAMIFLU, keep that channel open to your family and all you know - it may come in handy for whatever the medical community provides in regard to this strain. Our channel is controlled through our own organization.

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Posted By: FaithSF
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2009 at 11:01pm
Originally posted by deafdog deafdog wrote:

Now that stuff is in New York City. 

New York City?  Get plenty of ropes.

Lessee, how did it get from Mejico, to CA, AZ,- and then in a couple days - wham!  The east coast.

Now I figure that stuff's been a incubatin' a few days, so it got in American last week sometime. 

How many will be dead by the end of the month.  I'll say - 1K.

Quarantine everybody coming from the flicted areas.


Deafdog, in this age of international travel, infections can come from halfway around the world in a matter of hours. 



Posted By: PaWolf
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2009 at 11:05pm
Very true words, Faith. One would think they shouldn't even need to be said, these days...

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Posted By: FaithSF
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2009 at 11:09pm
I agree, Pa. 

Meanwhile, this is starting to scare me, too.  Someone on CNN (someone in the government) said he expects there will be deaths in the US before this is over.

God help us.


Posted By: CatWoman
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2009 at 11:55pm
People die from the flu every year.  

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Posted By: Irishman
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2009 at 12:07am
It's the flu, not the genetically-engineered bug from Stephen King's The Stand. It will be a pain in the ass for some time, but it will not be the end of civilization as we know it.
So far, the only fatalities have been in the vicinity of Mexico City, which probably has as much to do with air pollution screwing up people's respiratory systems as it does with people having the flu. Nearly everyone in the US who has this flu, had just returned from Mexico, or been in contact with someone from there. Even  vacationing schoolkids from New Zealand came down with it. Since when do schools in New freaking Zealand organize trips to Mexico?
Gracias por nada, Mexico.
 


Posted By: meinga
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2009 at 1:02am
I was watching this on the news today and they were saying that it is in 5 states now and it could be a combination of 4 or more flu viruses.  They said that this years flu vaccine wouldn't protect you against it, but if you got a flu shot in past years it could possibly lessen the effects if you were to catch it....if one of those strains are involved.  I'm concerned because I travel so much and am in contact with many people from everywhere.  I was in Mexico City almost 2 weeks ago and the major concern was personal safety from drug cartels, not this pandemic.  It's frightening considering how fast it has spread.


Posted By: FaithSF
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2009 at 2:28am
meinga, have you considered changin professions?! Hug


Posted By: meinga
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2009 at 2:45am
Wink  One of these days......


Posted By: MrTim
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2009 at 4:08am
Remember that the media is going to hype it up for all the sensationalism they can wring out of it.  Our FL TV stations go into live coverage panic mode over a rainstorm and fallen trees, so it's not unexpected for the national media to blow things out of proportion for ratings.  But if it turns into a zombie outbreak, then I'll worry.... Wink

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Posted By: Moochamoocha
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2009 at 5:12am
They confirmed that eight students at a local private school in Queens have the swine flu. They have closed the school for two days so they can give it a good scrubdown but I think that it's a little too late for that. The virus did not contain itself in the building. Those infected kids have obviously spread it around because they were interacting with other people before this hit the news. So that could mean that there are several other people here who are harboring the disease, which is lying dormant inside them for the moment. And these said individuals could have gone anywhere in the city.

Mooch afraid. Mooch very afraid.


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Posted By: PaWolf
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2009 at 9:35pm
...a nice little Q & A
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/04/27/gupta.qanda/index.html - http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/04/27/gupta.qanda/index.html
 
 

CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta, reporting outside a Mexico City hospital, says people can't get swine flu by eating pork. (LOL for some silly reason, that statement made me chuckle)



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Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2009 at 9:40pm
Some kid in a Catholic school in Fair Oaks (next town over from me) has been confirmed to have the Swine Flu.
 
Hmmm...I wonder if Kosher Jews are no longer Kosher if they come down with this.  Hmmmm...
 
 


Posted By: meinga
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2009 at 10:14pm
Originally posted by PaWolf PaWolf wrote:

 

CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta, reporting outside a Mexico City hospital, says people can't get swine flu by eating pork. (LOL for some silly reason, that statement made me chuckle)

 
LOLLOLLOL


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Date Posted: 27 Apr 2009 at 10:49pm

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Posted By: Pirate Alyx
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2009 at 12:09am
What pisses me off is I came down with the flu on the morning of April 8th....still coughing and still have diareahea, what ticks me off, is this headline just came out last friday....so where were they 2 weeks ago when I came down with it.  What really pisses me off is NONE of these reporters nor experts are spouting what the freaking symptoms are.  None of these asswipes are differentiating between flu and swine flu.  WHAT F'NG IDIOTS, they need to give people the INFORMATION AND FACTS, and not just this many people came down with it.  If anyone finds out what the specific symptoms are for the swine flu PLEASE PLEASE POST it here...I would love to know if what I had was swine flu.    I believe I caught mine in the Orange County area of southern California.

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Posted By: FaithSF
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2009 at 12:14am
Alyx, have you tried Googling "swine flu symptoms"?  I just read an article online this morning (which I can't find now) about the symptoms.  And yes, diarrhea is a symptom.

But they didn't know about it two weeks ago. 

You must be really ill and unable to think straight.  I hope you feel better soon.


Posted By: meinga
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2009 at 12:16am
You have a good point there because I've been watching this off and on all day on the news and haven't heard the symptoms mentioned either, but at least you know that it wasn't from eating pork LOL
 
Have you gone on any of the websites they mention?...one of them being cdc.gov


Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2009 at 12:29am
They're saying that some high school kid who has the Swine Flu, got it during Spring break in Cancun. 
 
This makes me wonder...do high school kids nowadays break Spring in places like Cancun????
 
 


Posted By: meinga
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2009 at 12:34am
They mentioned that Cancun is where the high school group in NYC contracted it.  I wondered the same thing about high school kids on spring break.


Posted By: FaithSF
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2009 at 12:34am
Maybe it was a class trip, Thor.  Like the one Natalee Holloway went on to Aruba.  Still.




Posted By: FaithSF
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2009 at 12:38am

Quote Q: What are the symptoms?

A: They're similar to regular human flu — a fever, cough, sore throat, body aches, headache, chills and fatigue. Some people also have diarrhea and vomiting.

Q: How do I know if I should see a doctor? Maybe my symptoms are from something else — like pollen?

A: Health authorities say if you live in places where swine flu cases have been confirmed, or you recently traveled to Mexico, and you have flulike symptoms, ask your doctor if you need treatment or to be tested. Allergies won't cause a fever. And run-of-the-mill stomach bugs won't be accompanied by respiratory symptoms, notes Dr. Wayne Reynolds of Newport News, Va., spokesman for the American Academy of Family Physicians.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090427/ap_on_he_me/med_healthbeat_swine_flu_q_a_2




Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2009 at 12:39am
I'm also wondering...does this Swine Flu really pose a major threat, or is it just a slow news week?  It's been the top story on all the local, as well as cable news shows these past few days, but hey---around here, A Sacramento Kings victory is sometimes the top news story.
 
 


Posted By: PaWolf
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2009 at 1:11am
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Posted By: meinga
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2009 at 5:28am
Originally posted by Irishman Irishman wrote:

Gracias por nada, Mexico.
 
 
SI!
 
CLOSE THE BORDER!


Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2009 at 5:33am
Originally posted by FaithSF FaithSF wrote:

Maybe it was a class trip, Thor.  Like the one Natalee Holloway went on to Aruba.  Still.


 
LOL  Permanent vacation.
 
 


Posted By: Irishman
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2009 at 7:27am
Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

Originally posted by FaithSF FaithSF wrote:

Maybe it was a class trip, Thor.  Like the one Natalee Holloway went on to Aruba.  Still.


 
LOL  Permanent vacation.
 
 
 
Of course, news reports tend to f*** up details, too; the outbreak in New Zealand was reported as a group of 'schoolchildren' who went to Mexico on a trip, then a later report said it was a group of college students. Slight difference.


Posted By: cornflake
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2009 at 8:05am
This doesn't sound much different from regular flu or SARS, so I think they just wanted to bury the torture story.


Posted By: PaWolf
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2009 at 9:46am
Originally posted by cornflake cornflake wrote:

This doesn't sound much different from regular flu or SARS, so I think they just wanted to bury the torture story.
 
"...when pigs fly"...or "when pigs sprout wings"
 
Confused You missed a WHOLE LOT of something within the writings.
It is MUCH different...it appears to be a little of this, a little of that, why, a cross-pollination between three varieties! You've a veritable garden-salad virus, this time; a regular 'mixing of the species', per se...
It IS too early to say what it all means, it IS pretty amazing in its own right.
Want something morbid to do?
Bookmark the CDC home page! You can watch everything unfold.Big%20smile
 
/time/health/article/0,8599,1894225,00.html">Maybe%20an%20asteroid%20didnt%20kill%20the%20dinosaurs
"Keep that claw outta yer nose and wash up after touching anything! And NO shaking hoofs with anybody!!!", a doomed mother lectures her upstart pup (who, of course, not only tossed out ALL of his roll-over minutes, but all of the family's future moments...)

/time/health/article/0,8599,1894225,00.html?cnn=yes - Maybe an asteroid didn't kill the dinosaurs ...(it was Swdinedo Flu!) 

 
...or, well maybe simply baaaad burritos....
Originally posted by Hootman Hootman wrote:

They shouldn't let those pigs in the restroom...

 
 


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Posted By: gail
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 8:52am
Originally posted by Irishman Irishman wrote:

It's the flu, not the genetically-engineered bug from Stephen King's The Stand. It will be a pain in the ass for some time, but it will not be the end of civilization as we know it.
So far, the only fatalities have been in the vicinity of Mexico City, which probably has as much to do with air pollution screwing up people's respiratory systems as it does with people having the flu. Nearly everyone in the US who has this flu, had just returned from Mexico, or been in contact with someone from there. Even  vacationing schoolkids from New Zealand came down with it. Since when do schools in New freaking Zealand organize trips to Mexico?
Gracias por nada, Mexico.
 
 
   I haven't read all the posts Irishman, but with the stockpiles of bioengineered viruses in so many countries within a world filled with fear. irrational hatred and paranoia, you cannot possibly think that it is inconceivable for something  like a pandemic flu that is resistant to all known anti-viral medications to be either a form of bio-warfare, terrorism or simply the act of a deranged  person. It seems very ironic that the flu's outbreak has been in areas of enormous population, such as Mexico City and Cancun, versus rural  areas. Even more suspect is that Mexico is a very popular vacation site for so many due to the fact that it is inexpensive, beautiful, foreign and has extremely lax travel regulations.
   Perhaps it seems like a fictional Stephen King novel, but unfortunately, the times have caught up to, if not surpassed, fiction. Hopefully, I'm way off base, but this could devastate world economy and the population. fearmongering, maybe. I wonder what people think of the plague, anthrax outbreaks both natural and engineered,nuclear warfare, etc. I just wouldn't be so quick to become complacent.


Posted By: Irishman
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 8:56am
Point taken, but one shouldn't reflexively think 'FLU CONSPIRACY OMG WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!', either.
However, some in the media have been waiting for something like that to happen, since the 2001 anthrax scares, and the SARS outbreaks a few years ago.


Posted By: gail
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 9:16am
  Of course not! Although isn't it horrible that it is even a consideration? When I was in elementary school in the early seventies, there was an epidemic virus called the Hong Kong flu that caused a tremendous amount of fatalies and the fear and panic was fierce. How ironic that back then, it was a naturally occuring horror and now the last thing that comes to mind is the possibility that is is natural?


Posted By: gail
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 9:24am
  On a different note, the Mexico bashing really is unfair. Haven't these poor people suffered enough? Earthquakes, illness, extreme poverty....it is very easy to cast stones, but can any of us even imagine what their daily life is like? And this devastation after the earthquake in Mexico City not too  long ago that was apparently the worst earthquake recorded in modern times.....


Posted By: Yutolia
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 4:46pm
Originally posted by gail gail wrote:

  Of course not! Although isn't it horrible that it is even a consideration? When I was in elementary school in the early seventies, there was an epidemic virus called the Hong Kong flu that caused a tremendous amount of fatalies and the fear and panic was fierce. How ironic that back then, it was a naturally occuring horror and now the last thing that comes to mind is the possibility that is is natural?


I had that - although, in Japan (where I had it), it's called Osaka flu. 3 weeks of being seriously ill. I'm glad I got over it. Ick.Dead


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Posted By: Ad nauseous
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 5:05pm
Well it's  confirmed the first flu death in the US has happened  a twenty two month old has died from it. He was visiting from Mexico.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/04/29/swine.flu/index.html - http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/04/29/swine.flu/index.html

Also I learned last night this lovely virus has supposedly made it's little way into the quiet corner of Connecticut @$!#

http://www.wfsb.com/health/19313667/detail.html - http://www.wfsb.com/health/19313667/detail.html

http://www.wfsb.com/health/19312709/detail.html - http://www.wfsb.com/health/19312709/detail.html

I HATE THIS S@#T!


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Posted By: FaithSF
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 5:18pm
I can't believe some people with access to microphones and newspaper publication are actually blaming this on illegal immigrants from Mexico.  Mexicans aren't bringing it here, it's Americans who have gone TO Mexico and then brought it back here.

I am anti-illegal immigration, but these U.S. cases cannot be blamed on that.  It makes me sick (no pun intended.)


Posted By: FaithSF
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 5:27pm
Originally posted by Irishman Irishman wrote:

Point taken, but one shouldn't reflexively think 'FLU CONSPIRACY OMG WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!', either.
However, some in the media have been waiting for something like that to happen, since the 2001 anthrax scares, and the SARS outbreaks a few years ago.


Irishman, I don't think everyone is thinking "Flu CONSPIRACY," more like flu epidemic or pandemic.  While it really won't help to panic, I do think it's incumbent upon every person to make sure they do whatever they can to avoid contracting or passing on the virus:  As they are saying, wash you hands. Often.  Use Purell or another hand sanitizer if you cannot get to soap and water.  Cover your mouth and nose when you cough or sneeze, which people should do anyway.  I am shocked by the amount of people who don't bother to cover their mouths when they cough.  It's rude and now potentially dangerous.

Wash your hands after going shopping, especially choosing fruits and vegetables.  I go to Goodwill a lot (not for clothing), and ALWAYS use Purell after I leave there.  Wash your hands when you get off the bus or other public transportation, and after you shake hands with someone else.  Did you just buy a newspaper from a box or a newsstand?  Did you just feed a parking meter?  Did you just push a shopping cart?  Did you go to a laundromat and use their facilities?

It's a behavior modification, but before touching your mouth, nose or eyes, think:  "What was the last thing I touched?" If it's not something you're sure is clean, or if it's something outside your home, WASH YOUR HANDS.



Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 5:56pm
Has anyone been seeing people walking around with nose/mouth masks?  I haven't, but the way it seems on the news, everyone is wearing one of those damned things.  LOL
 
 


Posted By: Irishman
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 6:06pm
It should also be noted that the virus IS responding to treatment in most cases (obviously this does not prevent the spread of the virus). One death has occurred in the US so far (unfortunately, a three-year old just this morning), but all of the other deaths have been in Mexico. Word is that the officials down there don't quite know what they're doing (insert tasteless punch line here), and those deaths were the result of doctors administering medicine improperly-either something got 'tainted' with other samples, or somebody just screwed up the dosages.
Bottom line...stay the f**king hell out of Mexico if you were still planning to go. And for everybody else who can't follow the simple suggestions/precautions Faith mentioned ...if you have flu symptoms, STAY HOME unless you're a dire emergency case.
f**k your job, f**k running errands, f**k your regular routine. Just stay home, and keep your open-mouthed coughs and your inability to wash hands to yourself. Everybody else's health is more important than you dragging your coughing and sneezing ass to Subway to drip snot on your five-dollar foot long. You know who you are.
The most prevalent 'symptom' in outbreaks like this is stupidity.


Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 6:12pm
How did this illness not get to be called the "Irishman" flu, or the "BrianO" flu?
 
Because as we all know, those are just alternate names for "swine" & "pig".
 
 


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Posted By: FaithSF
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 6:22pm
Hey, Jimbo.

This is a serious conversation.  Can you keep the insults to the political threads in your Jungle? Sheesh, can you talk about ANYTHING without spewing venom at people?


And, Thor, the news stories I've seen have said that those masks do nothing.  You'd need a chemical warfare/gas mask to prevent the spread of the germs.



Posted By: meinga
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 6:24pm
These are the symptoms of swine flu:  fever, usually over 100 degrees, with flu-like symptoms such as feeling sluggish, drained of energy, cough, sore throat, headache, chills, loss of appetite, nausea, vomiting and diarrhea.  Symptoms usually appear within 7 days after exposure to sick pigs or people with swine flu.


Posted By: ForumAdmin
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 6:53pm
personal attacks in Flame Room

swine flu talk in here.


Posted By: Irishman
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 6:55pm
Oh, just ban him, otherwise he'll never get the message.
If we're lucky, he'll catch it before the end of the school year, anyway.


Posted By: Moochamoocha
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 8:08pm
Really Jimbo, was that really necessary? Irishman was making a good point and said nothing offensive. Can't you stop being a jerk for five minutes?

This swine flu is going to turn us all into germaphobes. I'm not going to go around washing my hands every three minutes. Nothing will get done and I'll end up with extremely chapped, dry hands.

Not to sound like a doomsday bastion but don't you think that this is a punishment of some sort? Like God is telling us "I've warned you enough! Prepare for my wrath!" Doesn't the Bible talk about stuff like this?


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Posted By: FaithSF
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 8:16pm
Originally posted by Moochamoocha Moochamoocha wrote:

Really Jimbo, was that really necessary? Irishman was making a good point and said nothing offensive. Can't you stop being a jerk for five minutes?

This swine flu is going to turn us all into germaphobes. I'm not going to go around washing my hands every three minutes. Nothing will get done and I'll end up with extremely chapped, dry hands.

Not to sound like a doomsday bastion but don't you think that this is a punishment of some sort? Like God is telling us "I've warned you enough! Prepare for my wrath!" Doesn't the Bible talk about stuff like this?


No.  It'll be punishment enough if you get the flu because you didn't wash your hands.  But I don't think that will be from God.  It'll be from whatever you touched before you didn't wash your hands.




Posted By: gail
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 9:13pm
   The awful truth of this burgeoning nightmare is that the onset symptoms are no different than those of any other virus, cold, sinus infection. etc. The whole feeling is reminiscent of movie pandemonium with the exception of it being a movie.


Posted By: PaWolf
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 9:21pm
We're not taking this lightly at all.
We've basically banned travel to Mexico, for now; we've a lot of folks there...and we're actually trying to strategize on how to temporarily close a few offices and keep people at home, at a few other locations - including TWO (2) within the U.S. of Americo...everyone will start seeing a LOT more of this while others laugh about masks and snotty palms.
 
Throught the organization today, everyone got LARGE containers of industrial-strength germicidial disposable wipes.
 
...and way up here in our little pocket  of the Great White North, 2 people were confirmed with the virus, today.
 
 


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Posted By: Irishman
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 9:34pm
I'm already seeing some discrepancies in published reports of 'confirmed' as opposed to 'suspected' cases.


Posted By: gail
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 9:36pm
      We cancelled our family trip to Mexico a few days ago, which is disappointing because it is the only location that we can go to as a family without arguing. Besides being disturbing, it is very sad. What did these poor people do to incur this constant wrath? The Mexican bashing is already flourishing where I live. Ironically from the same people that celebrate Cinco de Mayo by getting drunk on cerveza, frequent every Mexican food  establishment and have pinata parties for their children, but have no idea of Aztec culture, Diego Rivera, Frihda Kahlo, etc.
   There is really nothing funny about suffering and disease. We'll see how funny it is when something catastrophic grown in our own country emigrates to other populations.


Posted By: Ad nauseous
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 9:37pm
BREAKING NEWS

WHO (no not the Who) has raised the level to Level 5 which means a pandemic is imminent.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/04/29/swine.flu/index.html - http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/04/29/swine.flu/index.html



we're #@!*ed.

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Posted By: Irishman
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 9:42pm
132 confirmed cases so far.
Thousands of suspected cases.
Millions sh*tting themselves because they don't know the difference between 'confirmed' and 'suspected'.


Posted By: HollyRock
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 10:37pm
BrianO, I see your point.
 
Kind of...
 
There are a few cases that have been in the news today, near me.  Two kids in Lowell, MA have tested positive, but they're recovering at home and are said to be in good condition.  Two other kids in Spencer, MA who vacationed in Cancun last week, and are sick, have tested negative.
 
However - if you know anyone who works in a hospital near you, they may tell you this is a big deal.  This flu is being taken very seriously by the medical professionals, not just the media.
 
Meanwhile, a boy in my daughter's class vacationed in Mexico last week.  He's one of those kids with particularly gross personal habits: has his hands in his mouth constantly, picks his nose freely, and has a tendency to spit.  Am I worried?  Honestly, yes.  I'm also worried about all the other possible exposure she or anyone else in my family may have that we don't even know about.
 
So YES we're Purell'ing the hell out of our hands at every opportunity, washing our hands, and staying away from anyone who coughs.   Better safe than sorry.
 
Oh, and what else stinks: a lot of people are suffering from seasonal allergies; sneezing, coughing, looking ill....


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Posted By: Irishman
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 11:37pm
A lot of the 'confirmed' cases have already recovered, or are in the process of recovering.
Others will turn out to have the 'seasonal' sickness, instead. That doesn't make for an exciting headline, though.
Too bad for Mexico, and the tourism industry, I guess, but, realistically...it's not as if Mexico is the only vacation spot to get sunburn/indigestion/a hangover/casual sex/whatever other reasons people vacation in Mexico.


Posted By: PaWolf
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 11:43pm
...another nice little bookmark for this topic.
 
http://pandemicflu.gov - http://pandemicflu.gov
 
 
This swine influenza A (H1N1) virus is sensitive (susceptible) to the neuraminidase inhibitor antiviral medications zanamivir and oseltamivir.   <<---guess we know what to ask for, if we feel REALLY sick...


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Posted By: Moochamoocha
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 11:58pm
Originally posted by HollyRock HollyRock wrote:

Oh, and what else stinks: a lot of people are suffering from seasonal allergies; sneezing, coughing, looking ill....


You are so right about that. Yesterday I was on the subway going to work and my allergies were raging. I was sneezing and sniffling all over the place. It was the same today, too. When people saw that, they inched away from me. People were staring. I felt embarrassed because it doesn't seem like anyone else around me is suffering like I am.

Faith - I am one of the cleanest people you'll ever meet. I don't touch doorknob or door handles with my bare hands; I wipe down my station at work with alcohol every time; I wash my hands even if I thought something dirty touched me. The only way this thing will get me is if some dirty person sneezes or coughs on me. Or am I supposed to be paranoid like everyone else and walk around in a hypoallergenic bubble while wearing a spacesuit? Puh-LEEZE!



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Posted By: FaithSF
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 12:11am
Originally posted by Moochamoocha Moochamoocha wrote:

Originally posted by HollyRock HollyRock wrote:

Oh, and what else stinks: a lot of people are suffering from seasonal allergies; sneezing, coughing, looking ill....


You are so right about that. Yesterday I was on the subway going to work and my allergies were raging. I was sneezing and sniffling all over the place. It was the same today, too. When people saw that, they inched away from me. People were staring. I felt embarrassed because it doesn't seem like anyone else around me is suffering like I am.

Faith - I am one of the cleanest people you'll ever meet. I don't touch doorknob or door handles with my bare hands; I wipe down my station at work with alcohol every time; I wash my hands even if I thought something dirty touched me. The only way this thing will get me is if some dirty person sneezes or coughs on me. Or am I supposed to be paranoid like everyone else and walk around in a hypoallergenic bubble while wearing a spacesuit? Puh-LEEZE!



Well, gee, Mooch, if you'd said that in the first place.  It sounds like you already take precautions. So what was the big deal?


Posted By: gail
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 12:18am
 Dirty people sneezing on you? This thing has nothing to do with personal hygeine. People coming back from a vacation or just unfortunate enough to get sick aren't necessarily dirty. I have chronic allergies too that are part of my daily life. If I contracted the flu, the early stages wouldn't seem any different than what I've come to believe is the norm. I'm immaculate, but not exempt from catching or spreading a virus.


Posted By: PaWolf
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 4:49am
...to think it has come to THIS...
javascript:nextPhoto%28%29; - (actually, should be common sense).
http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSTRE53R4TO20090429 - http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSTRE53R4TO20090429
 
 
"NO swapping spit" 
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Posted By: PaWolf
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 7:04am
Wow.Shocked
 
'JokeTime' over, Kids! - 1.52 A.M...
 
Mexico orders economic shutdown; pandemic imminent.
 
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE53N22820090430 - http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE53N22820090430
 
 


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Posted By: gail
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 7:10am
 
 
       Ya think?


Posted By: Irishman
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 7:13am
Si.


Posted By: Pirate Alyx
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 8:14pm

WHAT PISSES ME OFF...is that I came down with the flu on April 8th...and no word or nothing about this was out there...I had several days where I was sick as a dog, with tummy hurting and diareaha ....there was no going crazy in the USA when I was laying in bed sick.  I still am coughing and still have mild diarehea.  When is CNN or any other news outlet going to interview me.....I REALLY HATE ALL THIS COVERAGE...where were they 2 weeks ago when I caught it.  Besides I think our flu strain has morphed into something a lot less severe than the Mexico cases.

 
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Posted By: CatWoman
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 9:13pm
If you're still coughing and having the runs from an illness that started 22 days ago, GO SEE A DOCTOR.

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Posted By: HollyRock
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 9:14pm
Alyx it sounds like what you had/ve was really horrible, but I hope to God it wasn't bona fide Swine Flu.
 
I say that (because it could have been the regular human flu virus for this year) but also because if it WAS Swine Flu, think of all the others in your area that were also exposed, especially those with compromised immune systems who think they just have a cold.
 
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Posted By: PaWolf
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 10:39pm
...wherever there is a dollar to be made, these days - someone will find it...Confused
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,518534,00.html - http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,518534,00.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,518534,00.html#">


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Posted By: FaithSF
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 11:16pm
On my walk today, just out of curiosity, I went into three pharmacies.  They are all out of masks and have no idea when they will be getting more.


Posted By: gail
Date Posted: 01 May 2009 at 4:57am
Originally posted by FaithSF FaithSF wrote:

On my walk today, just out of curiosity, I went into three pharmacies.  They are all out of masks and have no idea when they will be getting more.
 
  Try a beekeeper's supply store. That'll be the next fix.


Posted By: FaithSF
Date Posted: 01 May 2009 at 5:37am
Originally posted by gail gail wrote:

Originally posted by FaithSF FaithSF wrote:

On my walk today, just out of curiosity, I went into three pharmacies.  They are all out of masks and have no idea when they will be getting more.
 
  Try a beekeeper's supply store. That'll be the next fix.


Gail, I love you.  You make me laugh!

Actually, I heard tonight that hardware stores carry the respirator masks.  They tie behind your head.  I think they're basically otherwise the same as the paper masks we're seeing.  It's just that these paper masks are open on the sides, so the bacteria can get in that way. 

I'm not too worried, actually.  I can't believe no one coughed or sneezed on that bus I took today!  I can't swear they didn't have open sores (I'm pretty sure one guy did), but no sneezing or coughing!


Posted By: MrTim
Date Posted: 01 May 2009 at 6:06am
Flu virus has mutated. London is being quarantined:
 
http://bouncewith.me.uk/europe/8027043.htm - http://bouncewith.me.uk/europe/8027043.htm
 
Do NOT panic.... Wink


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Posted By: FaithSF
Date Posted: 01 May 2009 at 6:12am
What is that, the UK's version of The Onion?  It looks JUST LIKE the front page of the BBC site. Jeez.


Posted By: Irishman
Date Posted: 01 May 2009 at 6:27am
"London quarantined in inappropriately humorous web site panic...film at 11."Tongue


Posted By: Ad Endless Nauseum
Date Posted: 01 May 2009 at 8:06am
Originally posted by PaWolf PaWolf wrote:

...wherever there is a dollar to be made, these days - someone will find it...Confused
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,518534,00.html - http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,518534,00.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,518534,00.html#">


Oh my God! One of them is a Billy Mays mask!DeadConfusedDeadConfused


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Posted By: Prometheus
Date Posted: 01 May 2009 at 11:19am
Originally posted by meinga meinga wrote:

These are the symptoms of swine flu:  fever, usually over 100 degrees, with flu-like symptoms such as feeling sluggish, drained of energy, cough, sore throat, headache, chills, loss of appetite, nausea, vomiting and diarrhea.  Symptoms usually appear within 7 days after exposure to sick pigs or people with swine flu.


Np offense, but those are the symptoms of the common flu as well. The "swine flu" is accompanied by heavy or difficult respiration, likely due to pulmonary (lungs) congestion, similar to Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease (smoker's lung). If you feel flu-like symptoms, and they are accompanied by difficulty in breathing, THEN go see a doctor. Otherwise, it's likely a common flu and not worth clogging the ER for people who actually have it.

By the way, the "swine flu" has nothing to do with swine at all, it cannot manifest it's genetic code through swine at all, nor can they be "dormant carriers". It is a mutation of the "avian flu", and a purely human influenza strain. It doesn't matter if a pig is incubating AIDS, you cannot get it from properly-prepared or handled pork products.

Tamiflu is actually helping the virus evolve into a deadlier and deadlier strain, by accelerating it's mutation. Just as I am immune to nearly all forms of influenza because I never get a flu shot, the viral genetic code is also learning how to overpower the alleged "vaccines" we have.

If you have ANY flu, the treatment is simple:

1 Lots of fluids, lukewarm or hotter. NEVER drink anything cold.
2 Keep warm, to the point of being uncomfortable. If you are uncomfortably-warm, you are killing the virus by making your body inhospitable to it. This is why you get fevers, because your immune system is trying to make your body inhospitable. The virus doesn't give you a fever, your immune system does, so sweat it out....literally.
3 Chicken soup....It's not an old wive's tale, it actually works due to trace hormones that upset the chemistry of your bloodstream. High-sodium also makes your bloodstream inhospitable, and the internal-warmth has a benefit as seen above.
4 Don't run to the toilet to puke, have a bucket nearby. As soon as you leave the warm cocoon you were in, you can shock your body slightly, enough to distract your immune system from fighting the virus.
5 Stay uncomfortably-hot as consistently as you can. This gives your immune system the upper-hand, as it does not need to delegate resources to keep you hot. If you are sweating, you are "too warm" enough.
6 Monitor your temperature often, especially during the first 24 hours. 103F= not so good, 104F= worthy of concern-monitor temp every 30 minutes or less, 105F= dangerous. call 911, and seek advice or call for aid, 106F= call 911 immediately, as this high a fever can kill rather quickly, and/or cause severe brain damage, this requires immediate medical care.
7 If you have to eliminate, whether #1, #2, or even snot, get it out of your body, don't snort up a runny nose. Blow your nose only, and treat such tissues as "biohazard". Discard often, and wash hands after handling (for the person playing nurse, if any).
8 Launder all blankets/pillows/clothing once you are well....handle them yourself as you are now immune, including to the dryer.
9 Touching on #5, hot showers, always. As hot as you can take, and do not vent any heat out of the room. You will feel temporarily-relieved, so dry yourself quickly (especially your hair). Get back into bed asap, dry your hair in bed before you start to feel cold again. Use the hair-dryer to heat your cocoon while you are in it, so your body heat doesn't have to.
10 Rest. Nothing matters if you do not get rest. Sleep as much as you can, if you can. Sleep has the dual purpose of making it seem shorter, and also puts your body in a self-repairing mode as sleep shuts down some systems "to do maintenance".
11 Take plenty of vitamin C (or L-ascorbic acid), as much as double your RDA allowance, as this will bolster your immune system.

I was infected with what was once called the "7-day flu" awhile ago....I broke it in 28 hours with these simple rules, as I have broken every flu since (I don't get many, I am immune to every common flu strain out at the moment). The main thing is the heat. Sure, it's quite uncomfortable, but better to be uncomfortable for a day or two than for a week or more. Believe it or not, but keeping uncomfortably-hot can actually reduce a fever slightly.

You MUST get sick every so often, or you not only are barring your immune system from being able to recognize a virus, but also acting as a carrier and facilitating a contagion. Immune-system-suppressing medications only make you weaker. Getting sick with the common flu, and just riding it out, makes you much stronger against it overall, regardless of the strain.

I hope this info is helpful to anyone now, or in the future who may get the flu. This information is based upon personal experience and cannot replace the advice of a medical professional. With most strains of the common flu, these tips can dramatically-shorten the length of the infection, and possibly the severity of the infection. Try to act against the flu as soon as you suspect you may be infected, because the sooner you act, the less it can devastate you. Be aware that you are contagious as much as at least a day BEFORE you feel symptoms, but not more than 7 days of it's incubation period. You are contagious as much as 7 days after you have gotten over it, even if you stop feeling symptoms.

Top Ramen can be your best friend if you get the flu, as it is both warm, and meets your fluids requirement.  Adding Tabasco to it can help both by helping to stimulate the flushing of your sinuses, and unconfirmed medical evidence cites that it can further stimulate the immune system. Dressing for winter can make bathroom runs more comfortable and lessen the shock of sudden-exposure when the blankets come off.


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Posted By: CatWoman
Date Posted: 01 May 2009 at 1:59pm
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Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 01 May 2009 at 2:48pm
They're alive!!!
 
A few days ago, the number of Swine Flu deaths in Mexico was somewhere around 160.  It is now officially...
 
 
 
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Posted By: FaithSF
Date Posted: 01 May 2009 at 5:40pm
Mrs Hill, I am speechless.


Posted By: Irishman
Date Posted: 01 May 2009 at 6:05pm
Prometheus...you can't spell 'flu' without 'F.U.'Tongue
Go breathe on one of your fellow conspiracy-theory 'the gummint is gonna KILL US, maaan!' wack-job buddies, OK?


Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 01 May 2009 at 7:08pm
Are you talking about Prometheus' last post, Irishman?  I dunno...I think that stuff is pretty much accepted flu science.  I've heard medical people on TV and, in fact, have a medical friend, say the same thing about Tamiflu.  I don't see any conspiracy stuff there.
 
I certainly agree with the tabasco sauce/soup suggestion.  Years ago, I found that soup with cayenne pepper helped alleviate fevers for hours.  It's simple; hot stuff makes you sweat.
 


Posted By: meinga
Date Posted: 01 May 2009 at 7:21pm
Thank you, doctor for the lesson in flu 101.  I am not a medical expert or claim to be one, I was just passing on some of the information that I received from a memo sent by my company.  I work for a major company which employs around 100,00 people and they work closely with the CDC as well as physcians on a regular basis.  We work with thousands of people and are exposed to all kinds of things.  I do believe that my post stated "flu like symptoms" and after reading the CDC website, all of those symptoms are mentioned as well as a statement that pneumonia and respiratory failure have been associated with swine flu.  So, you may have just politely added the respiratory information.
On to your medical recommendation that people with normal flu shouldn't clog up emergency rooms.  Reported in today's newspaper, cases here in Georgia are being analyzed when the patient goes to the doctor or hospital with the flu and samples are sent to the CDC to be confirmed if it is swine flu or not.  How do you propose that people diagnose themselves when a medical professional us unable to determine this without sending the sample off?


Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 01 May 2009 at 7:45pm
Hmmmm...suddenly I'm getting email notifications on this topic, even though I don't have that box checked off.
 
I wonder if my computer has the Swine flu virus.
 
 


Posted By: Irishman
Date Posted: 01 May 2009 at 7:50pm
Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

Are you talking about Prometheus' last post, Irishman?  I dunno...I think that stuff is pretty much accepted flu science.  I've heard medical people on TV and, in fact, have a medical friend, say the same thing about Tamiflu.  I don't see any conspiracy stuff there.
 
I certainly agree with the tabasco sauce/soup suggestion.  Years ago, I found that soup with cayenne pepper helped alleviate fevers for hours.  It's simple; hot stuff makes you sweat.
 
It's already being reported that Tamiflu, and one other medication whose name escapes me, are the two MOST effective treatments against the outbreak so far. There's certainly no evidence that Tamiflu is causing 'mutation' of this flu virus. Prometheus made it sound as if Tamiflu is accelerating the outbreak. So, yeah, maybe I overreacted, but there's a hell of a gap between those two viewpoints.


Posted By: CatWoman
Date Posted: 01 May 2009 at 9:01pm
Originally posted by Prometheus Prometheus wrote:

By the way, the "swine flu" has nothing to do with swine at all, it cannot manifest it's genetic code through swine at all, nor can they be "dormant carriers". It is a mutation of the "avian flu", and a purely human influenza strain. It doesn't matter if a pig is incubating AIDS, you cannot get it from properly-prepared or handled pork products.


We know we can't catch this from pork products, thank you, but the virus is a combination of swine/avian/human flu that NONE of us are immune to.


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Posted By: FaithSF
Date Posted: 01 May 2009 at 9:08pm
And they are saying it came from a US-owned pig farm in Mexico.


Posted By: meinga
Date Posted: 01 May 2009 at 9:21pm
Originally posted by MrsHill MrsHill wrote:

Originally posted by Prometheus Prometheus wrote:

By the way, the "swine flu" has nothing to do with swine at all, it cannot manifest it's genetic code through swine at all, nor can they be "dormant carriers". It is a mutation of the "avian flu", and a purely human influenza strain. It doesn't matter if a pig is incubating AIDS, you cannot get it from properly-prepared or handled pork products.


We know we can't catch this from pork products, thank you, but the virus is a combination of swine/avian/human flu that NONE of us are immune to.
 
Thank you Mrs Hill, I was going to address the comment that "swine flu has nothing to do with swine at all"  Confused  Maybe Prometheus needs to enlighten the CDC on this.
 
http://phil.cdc.gov/phil/details.asp?pid=10143 - http://phil.cdc.gov/phil/details.asp?pid=10143


Posted By: FaithSF
Date Posted: 01 May 2009 at 10:36pm
Originally posted by meinga meinga wrote:

 
Thank you Mrs Hill, I was going to address the comment that "swine flu has nothing to do with sine at all"  Confused  Maybe Prometheus needs to enlighten the CDC on this.
 
http://phil.cdc.gov/phil/details.asp?pid=10143 - http://phil.cdc.gov/phil/details.asp?pid=10143


LOL


Posted By: PaWolf
Date Posted: 02 May 2009 at 12:07am
Was anyone else waiting for THIS?
http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSTRE5401DJ20090501 - http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSTRE5401DJ20090501


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Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 02 May 2009 at 12:34am
Maybe this is what Prometheus meant (from Wikipedia):
 
The origins of this new strain are unknown, and the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Organization_for_Animal_Health - World Organization for Animal Health (OIE) reports that this strain has not been isolated in pigs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swine_flu#cite_note-1 - [2] It passes with apparent ease from human to human, an ability attributed to an as-yet unidentified mutation.
 
The 2009 H1N1 virus is not zoonotic swine flu, as it is not transmitted from pigs to humans, but from person to person.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swine_flu - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swine_flu
 
But answers probably aren't all there yet.  Maybe we'll know more as time goes on.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swine_flu -  
 



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