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    Posted: 06 Sep 2016 at 11:15pm
I started a new job January 4. I was told there was benefits which I thought included my whopping 1 week of vacation. I put my slip in on Friday to take next week off. I'd be using 1 day from summer hours and 4 days vacation.

My boss told me today I needed to be EMPLOYED for a year before I can take any time off. We were in the middle of doing a bunch of things, so, stunned, I didn't say anything more than "I'll speak to my husband tonight."

I know I have to aggressively pursue this tomorrow and the whole thing just gives me a giant headache. WTF??? They don't accure for the 9 months I already slaved there?

Did I mention I hate this job?
I work my ass off, I'm 54 years old and the thought of not getting a measly week off this year is driving me up a wall.

What are your thoughts? Should I bite the bullet and take it without 4 days pay?

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I dunno msmadz.

I think most companies require that you work a full year prior to getting vacation pay.

If I were you, I'd just hang in there, work through your full year in order to get your benefit, then look for something else.

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I'm afraid Jimbo's right on this one, msmadz, sorry.

It's been a long time since I was at the weedeater end of a totem pole, but I do recall the vacation schedule. My last full time job, you had to be there a year before you could take a week with pay.. two years to get two weeks paid.. ten years to get three weeks.. twenty to get four.

I agree with Jimbo, stick it out. You've already passed Ventor Ave and can see a hotel on the horizon, may as well pass Go and get your two-hunned. My former job would let you take the pay after your anniversary, so I'd say go ahead and take the week off with pay, and.. if it's an option.. take the pay in January. Then be on the lookout for something you don't hate.
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Quote My boss told me today I needed to be EMPLOYED for a year before I can take any time off.
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What are your thoughts? Should I bite the bullet and take it without 4 days pay?
 
Only if you are sure you'll still have a job when you get back.  Then start looking for another.  The boss sounds like a Dick  (That's really his name, right? LOL )  I'm assuming he meant paid time off...? 
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In days of yore, it was always 2 weeks vacation after one year.  At least it was in all my jobs.
 
I've been at this job for a year now.  When I was hired, I was told I'd get one week after a year.  This changed at the beginning of this year.  Now, we accrue hours every pay period.  But there was no allowance for the months I'd already put in.  So now, instead of having one week (or 40 hours) coming to me, I have 26 hours.
 
Oh, this is called "Paid time off", and includes calling out sick.
 
 
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I'm having a sit down today and telling my boss that he told me benefits were included. Medical and one week vacation. If he wants to back track on that he can bring it up with the owners. My boss is cool. The owners especially the p patriarch are horrid.
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Remember - it is always easier to get a job when you already have one and not having one just isn't too much fun.
Careful Maddy - make it a 1-1 session or something, should you like to retain your position. Most organizations do not work in the manner in which you know & love. Should you put them on the spot, count your days. I would suggest playing by their rules as you smile through the pain while quietly being on the lookout for that dream job.
 
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Turns out they had a policy and I was supposed to get a week. But this is what we agreed on. I'm taking 2 days unpaid but I think my boss will forget to tell payroll. Beginning in January I get a week. The following January I get two. I'm good with that.

The old policy someone found I wouldn't get 2 weeks for 3 or maybe even 5 years.

This place makes up sh*t as they go along. As long as the rules change in our favor it's all good.

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Originally posted by msmadz msmadz wrote:



This place makes up sh*t as they go along. As long as the rules change in our favor it's all good.

 
Yeah, where I work, every manager has a different (but very "certain") understanding of policy.  In many regards, especially when it comes to the functions related to my work, I make up policy.  It's always the right one, and at this point, I've just gotten tired of rules changing week to week and manager to manager.  I'll do what's best, thank you.
 
 
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Unspoken policies? foolish, idiotic, and dangerous. Wait until you need your 'boss' (or, as I like to refer to them, 'secretarial administrators') to back one of your moves you both agreed to, but clearly out of bounds and has put him on the line. I just bet you'd be amazed at how quick the little weenie washer would hike that frilly dress and click his high heels three times and disappears to Christopher Street looking to get boned while you get left out in the cold, about to get boned by human resourcecs and payroll.

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I've had managers give me diametrically opposing orders ("refuse shipment A"/"accept shipment A"), and when I've told them to iron it out with their boss (the store manager), they've told me that they don't need to.  So, I bring the matter to her, and she tells me that only she can refuse a shipment.  The other (assistant) managers tell me she's wrong.  So now, when I want to refuse a shipment, I just get some sort of approval from one of them, and go on my merry way.  While they wallow in vagueries, I just try to get things done.  Often (usually), it's the people on "the ground" who know what's best.
 
 
 
 
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That is when you let them work a solution and stand back. If you do not, this will happen over and over - and YOU will be the reason all is wrong when they finally get caught. Yea - I would just fire you now if you came to me with a line o'sh*t like that and told me you'd been addressing it for awhile.
Heck, let me save Y'allmart the trouble - you're fired.
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If I waited for them to resolve things, things just wouldn't happen.  None of them---not even the store manager---know how to do my job, so it seems they'd rather just ignore it, and rely on me to handle matters.
 
If I was to get fired, it wouldn't be for not doing my job well.  It'd be for politics.
 
 
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Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

If I waited for them to resolve things, things just wouldn't happen.  None of them---not even the store manager---know how to do my job, so it seems they'd rather just ignore it, and rely on me to handle matters.
 
If I was to get fired, it wouldn't be for not doing my job well.  It'd be for politics.
 
 
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